"Don't give 'em Components until they Beg" ... is a quote from someone's blog I read recently. I can't seem to find it. If this is you, I'll update this post to link and reference you! That post made me reflect back on this story from the frontiers of physics help study:

Update: The original post that inspired me to share this story can be found at Quantum Progress.

Update: The original post that inspired me to share this story can be found at Quantum Progress.

One week, it wasn't particularly busy, and I was watching a group of two students working on a 2d-collision problem with the help of a graduate student. The problem was something like this

A 2kg mass moves east at 2 m/s. Another 2 kg mass is moving 30 degrees south of west at 1m/s. If the two collide and stick together, what will their speed be?The students and helper were approaching the problem like this:

(a) Set up the conservation of momentum equations in the x and y directions(b) Find the x- and y-components for the velocity for the mass moving off-axis(c) Plug in numbers and solve for unknown(d) Use those unknowns to find the speed and the direction.

Standard solution path, but along the way, they made an error. Can you spot it?

2kg 2m/s + 2kg 1m/s cos (30) = 4kg vx

2 kg 1m/s sin (30) = 4kg vy

Now, neither the students, nor the graduate student, knew what mistake they made. But since the students had the answer at the back of the book, they knew they had made some mistake.

Now, I didn't know what mistake they had made either. They had been working on pieces of paper that kept the details of their work somewhat hidden from me. So I just let them keep working on it, while I went to another board to work out the problem quickly myself.

Here's what I did on the blackboard:

As you can see, my approach was quite different from theirs:

- It emphasizes geometry
- It emphasizes the vector nature of momentum
- It emphasizes that system momentum is the sum of individual particle momentums
- It emphasizes conservation in a simple way (p is both initial and final momentum)
- It emphasizes momentum (as a singular physical quantity) rather than velocity and mass
- It solves the problem through geometrical ideas (here law of cosines, but you could just as easily use a ruler and protractor)

And it does all of this in one diagram and one equation.

I think the students' approach does this:

- It emphasizes equations and algebra
- It hides vector nature of momentum (in signs), also where students make their mistake
- It distributes the concept of conservation across many terms and many equations (masking the fundamental principle from the exercise)
- It emphasizes mass and velocity, not momentum (which is king!)
- It solves the problem through too many unnecessary steps: break into components only to have to combine them back again.

I'm not saying students shouldn't ever learn to solve problems by using components. I'm just saying that "jumping the gun" by teaching components first can't be a good thing.

I suggest (as others have) doing it this way, if at all possible:

(a) Start with protractors and rulers–make 'em do it the old fashioned way(b) Then, maybe introduce law of cosines and law of sines–give 'em a trick or two(c) Then, then maybe, think about introducing components

We ended up finding the error in their work (together), and discussed a little bit about the solution I took. They were really interested in what I had done, because it looked like less work. But the graduate student stuck around even longer to discuss this solution, because he was intrigued by the fact that he had never learned to think about momentum problems this way.

Brian,

ReplyDeleteExactly. This is something I learned from Mark Hammond, but the only way for students to fully appreciate vectors as a fundamentally different quantity is is they do really different operations with them (ie. graphical addition) for a long time until they build up some intuitive sense. Only much later, when they really know what a vector is, and why 2N + 2N isn't always 4N should they start using more abstract things like components, which make it harder to "see" the different nature of vectors. This was the gist of the post I wrote a while ago, Adding forces or why students should use components until they beg.

Awesome! I've updated the post to link to your post. I knew I had read that post somewhere. From the looks of it, I even commented on your post that I was planning on sharing my story.

ReplyDeleteOne of my concerns is this: In high school, I took a conceptual physics course first. In that class we spent the whole year doing geometric additions of vectors. It was later in my senior year of HS, when I took the AP physics course, where we starting doing components. So, the transition from geometry to components happened over 2 years. In college physics, where mechanics is learned in a semester, is it possible to do geometric approaches in an honest way as to let the intuitions with vectors really sink in?